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God the Father made a different promise to Christ than God made to the fathers

July 6, 2017

I Peter 1: 18 For you know that you were redeemed from your empty way of life inherited from THE FATHERS, not with perishable things like silver or gold, 19 but with the precious blood of Christ, like that of a lamb without defect or blemish. 20 Christ was chosen before the creation of the world but was revealed at the end of the ages

Even if God had chosen to save each and every human sinner by Christ’s death, it would still not have been foolish for God to create humans (and the world) in order that Christ would become incarnate and die for humans that God created to be sinners.

Fathers Abraham and David are NOT in heaven because they are still dead right now.

Acts 13: 32 And we ourselves proclaim to you the good news of the promise that was made to our FATHERS. 33 God has fulfilled this for us, their children, by raising up Jesus, as it is written in the second Psalm:
You are My Son;
today I have BECOME Your Father.
34 Since God the Father raised the Son from the dead, never to return to decay, God the Father has spoken in this way, I will grant you the faithful covenant blessings made to DAVID 36 David fell asleep, was buried with his fathers, and decayed. 37 But the One God raised up did not decay.

God the Father elects some sinners in Christ because of the Father’s love for Christ. God the Father elects some sinners in Christ because of the Father’s love for those sinners.

The death of Christ is not the cause of God’s election in love.
God’s election in love is the cause of the death of Christ.

God’s justice in Christ’s death is NOT the cause of God’s love, but God’s justice in Christ’s death is the necessary means of God’s love.
Justification is not election, but trying to teach imputation without election is failing to teach the justice of Christ’s death for imputed sins.

Christ’s election obligates Christ to die under God’s law.

Isaiah 53:10
Yet the Lord was pleased to crush the Servant severely.
You make Him a restitution offering,
The servant will see His seed, He will prolong His days,
and by His hand, the Lord’s pleasure will be accomplished.
11 The servant will see the accomplishment out of His anguish,
and He will be satisfied with His knowledge.
My righteous Servant will justify many,
and He will carry their iniquities.
12 Therefore I will GIVE HIM THE MANY as a portion, and He will receive the mighty as spoil,
BECAUSE He submitted Himself to DEATH,
and was counted among His sinners
He bore the sin of many
and interceded for His sinners

Did God create time? Or did God always have time?

Did God create His sovereignty ? Or did God always have sovereignty?

Before the ages when God elected Christ and Christ’s people, hadn’t that election already happened always before?

God made more than one promise to Abraham.
God promised Abraham that Abraham would have many children.
God promised land to Abraham and his children

Genesis 13: 15 for I will give you and your offspring all the land that you see for this lasting age

Genesis 17:8 And to you and your future offspring I will give the land where you are residing—all the land of Canaan—as a lasting possession, and I will be their God.”

Genesis 17: 19 But God said, “ Your wife Sarah will bear you a son, and you will name him ISSAC I will confirm My covenant with ISAAC as an lasting covenant for his future offspring.

Genesis 17: 20 As for Ishmael, I will certainly bless him; I will make him fruitful and will multiply him greatly. Ishmael will father tribal leaders, and I will make Ishmael into a great nation.

Genesis 22:17 I will indeed bless you (Abraham) and make your offspring as numerous as the stars of the sky and the sand on the seashore. Your offspring will possess the gates of their enemies. 18 And all the nations of the earth will be blessed by your offspring because you (Abraham) have obeyed My command.”

Since the apostle Paul took Scriptures with plural “seed” to mean the singular, can’t we also translate the many seed into one seed?

Galatians 3:8 Now the Scripture saw in advance that God would justify the Gentiles by faith and told the good news ahead of time to Abraham, saying, All the nations will be blessed through you.

Galatians 3:16 Now the promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed.

Galatians 3:18 For if the inheritance is from the law, the inheritance is no longer from the promise. But God granted the inheritance TO ABRAHAM through the promise.

Galatians 3: 29 And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, heirs according to the promise.

Even the apostle Paul knew that “seed” was the plural collective.

Ephesians 1:4-5. 4 For God chose us in Christ, before the creation of the world, to be holy and blameless in His sight. In love 5 God predestined us TO BE ADOPTED through Jesus Christ for Himself, according to His favor and will, 6 to the praise of His glorious grace that God favored us with in Christ.

God the Father elects some sinners in Christ because of the Father’s love for Christ. God the Father elects some sinners in Christ because of the Father’s love for these sinners.

was the promise of the new covenant made to both Christ and Christ’s elect?

https://bible.org/article/plain-senses-scripture-questioning-interpretive-singularity-galatians-3-and-romans-4

Psalm 72:17
May his name endure forever;
as long as the sun shines,
may his fame increase.
May all nations be blessed by him
and call him blessed.

Genesis 3: 15 Then the Lord God said
I will put hostility between you and the woman,
and between your seed and her seed.
He will strike your head,
and you will strike his heel.

Imputation Is NOT an Experience, but Results in Hearing the Gospel

January 26, 2012

The Holy Spirit does not impute Christ’s righteousness, so we cannot refer only to the Holy Spirit in the “application” of the accomplished atonement. Even though there is no justification apart from regeneration and faith, the righteousness of Christ has priority over the work of the Spirit, and legal imputation is not the work of the Spirit.

Romans 4: What then shall we say was gained by Abraham, our forefather according to the flesh? 2 For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. 3 For what does the Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was imputed to him unto righteousness.” 4 Now to the one who works, his wages are not counted as a gift but as his due. 5 And to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is imputed unto righteousness, 6 just as David also speaks of the blessing of the one to whom God counts righteousness apart from works:

7 “Blessed are those whose lawless deeds are forgiven, and whose sins are covered;
8 blessed is the man against whom the Lord will not impute his sin.”
9 Is this blessing then only for the circumcised, or also for the uncircumcised? For we say that faith was imputed to Abraham unto righteousness. 10 How then was it counted to him? Was it before or after he had been circumcised? It was not after, but before he was circumcised.

Some translations of Romans 4 and Genesis 15:6 decide that “as righteousness” should be translated “unto righteousness”. But that difference does not explain why imputation happens or what is imputed.

Whether we see imputation as the transfer of something, or if we see imputation as the declaration of something (without a transfer, or after a transfer), what is the “it” which is being imputed and why is God imputing “it”?

Many “Reformed” folks now tell us that imputation is without any transfer, that it only means declaring that certain folks are in the covenant or in the church. In this way of thinking, “it is imputed” simply means that God declares people just without talking about how and why they got that way.

God did not say to Abraham: if you believe, then I will bless you. God said, I will bless you without cause, not only so that you will believe but also so that in your offspring there will be one who will bring in the righteousness for the elect alone required by the law.

The “it” which was imputed by God to Abraham is the obedient bloody death of Abraham’s seed Jesus Christ for the elect alone.

Romans 4:24-25 “IT will be counted to us who believe in Him who raised from the dead Jesus our Lord, who was delivered up for our trespasses and raised up for our justification.”

1. Christ and His death are the IT. Faith is not the IT. Christ and His death are the object of faith. But Christ and His death are the IT credited by God. This legal application of the accomplished atonement is not done by the Holy Spirit.

2. We can distinguish but never separate Christ’s person and work. Also we can distinguish but never separate Christ’s death and his resurrection. Thus also we can distinguish between imputation and the work of the Spirit. The Spirit gives faith but faith is not imputed. Faith in the gospel is a result of imputation.

3. God imputes according to truth. God imputes righteousness as righteousness! a. The righteousness counted as righteousness is not our righteousness (not our works of faith) but legally “transferred” to us when Christ marries us, so that what is His is still His but now ours also. b. Justification is not only the righteousness, but the righteousness imputed to the elect.

4. Imputation therefore means two different things. One, the transfer, the legal sharing of what belongs to another. Two, the declaration. God is justified, declared to be just, without transfer. God is imputed to be just because God is just.