Posted tagged ‘In Christ’

Either Dead in Christ or Not

March 10, 2015

Galatians 5: 24 Now those who belong to Christ Jesus HAVE CRUCIFIED THE FLESH with its passions and desires

If we were to ever become dead in Christ

It would not have been us who did it
it would be by God’s imputation

If we were to ever become dead in Christ
We would count in a new way and not hang our future
On a divine life in us

If we were to ever become dead in Christ
We would count as loss
What we used to count worship

If we were to ever become dead in Christ
We would have had it Done to us
Death is suffered

If we were to ever stand still in Christ
What we would have lost is making outcomes
Depend on God causing us to obey

We do not hope for righteousness
We hope because of righteousness
Having passed from death through a death imputed

Died with Christ” (or “died in Christ”) means Christ died instead of the justified elect, but the result is that the person the elect used to be, that person is dead, over with, done trying to help build their own righteousness. That old person is not here now anymore. The justified elect person has nothing to gain by their works. And nothing to lose.

Galatians 2: 19 For through the law I died to the law, in order to live to God. 20 I have been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives with regard to me. And the life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me.

Being crucified with Christ and living now in the flesh by faith are two sides of the same thing—you can’t put on the new without putting off the old. The Romans 6 baptism into the death is NOT God’s imputation of the sins of the elect to Christ—-God’s baptism of the elect into the death of Christ is the same as God’s imputation of Christ’s death (Christ’s righteousness) to the elect.

I Corinthians 1:25 For the weakness of God is stronger than men.

Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it (the gospel) is the POWER of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. 17 For in it (the gospel) the righteousness of God is revealed from faith for faith, as it is written, “The righteous shall live by faith.”

I Corinthians 1:18 For the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God

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Nobody’s Born In Christ, Everybody’s Born in Adam

December 22, 2011

Romans 5:12 Therefore,just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin,and so death spread to all men because all sinned—

Romans 5 does not directly say that “all sinned in Adam”. Nor does this chapter ever use the word “imputation”. But the sin of verse 12 is not the result of death. The death is the result of “because all sinned”.

We look to the context in chapter 5 to see how it is that the all sinned. We all sinned because of the representative sin of Adam.
Adam was our substitute. We don’t need to sin ourselves to be condemned to death.

We are condemned to death because Adam sinned for us, as our representative. We are not guilty based on our corruption. Corruption is mediated to us because we are guilty. We do sin of course but before we did we were already constituted sinners. We were all born legally guilty in Adam.

Romans 5:13 “for sin indeed was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not counted where there is no law. 14 Yet death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those whose sinning was not like the transgression of Adam, who was a type of the one who was to come.”

It’s not only infants who died who did NOT sin like Adam. Everybody who died after Adam’s first sin but before the Mosaic law was given did NOT sin like Adam. Yet because of Adam’s sin, all these people died.

But didn’t these people live a while and then die? Why did they get to live even a little if they were born guilty? Genesis: in the day you eat, you will surely die. The death is sure, but not yet executed upon all those represented by Adam.

“Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.” ”Truly I say to you today you will be with me in Paradise.” Luke 23:43 Jesus did not wait until after He died to promise the justified thief that He would remember him. The promise to be with Jesus in paradise is sure, even on this day when Jesus died.

“David foresaw and spoke about the resurrection of the Christ, that he was not abandoned to Hades, nor did his flesh see corruption. This Jesus God raised up.” Acts 2:31

Romans 5:16 “For the judgment following one trespass brought condemnation, but the free gift following many trespasses brought justification. 17 For if, because of one man’s trespass, death reigned through that one man, much more will those who receive the abundance of grace and the free gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man Jesus Christ.”

Imputation is not first of all about the punishment of sins. Imputation is about the bearing of guilt. Infants who die have been imputed with Adam’s sin, and that doesn’t mean they only bear the punishment of Adam’s sin. Legally they sinned when Adam sinned.

So how did the elect die when Christ died? Again, the logical inference is by the imputation (legal transfer) of what their representative accomplished. What did Christ get done? What did Christ finish? Christ died for the sins of the elect imputed to Him.

Not only did God impute the sins of the elect to Christ, but God also imputes the death of Christ (this good and just death, because of sins) to the elect, in time and individually, one by one as God justifies these elect. This is talked about in the next chapter of Romans. Chapter 6 of Romans, like chapter 5, does not use the word “imputation”. But that is the basic meaning of “being placed into” or “planted into” Christ’s death.