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Christ died alone

June 6, 2015

Hebrews 13: 12 Therefore Jesus also suffered outside the gate, in order to sanctify the people by His own blood

Galatians 1:4 Grace to you and peace from God the Father and our Lord[b] Jesus Christ, 4 who gave Himself for our sins to rescue us from this present evil age, according to the will of our God and Father

Isaiah 53 says that people put him on the cross because they thought he was cursed

they thought he was cursed because he died on a cross
they considered him punished alone for his sins alone

he was in fact punished alone, but not for sins of his own

the law says— get the right person, no substitutions
the law says—no unjust suffering of one for many
the law says—one for one, eye for eye
the law says—no death of one person for another person

Jesus died for our sins, Jesus died because of our sins

Romans 4:25 does not say simply “died for our sins”, it says “handed over for our sins”—penal death
Jesus did not die once for our sins, and then the second time we die for our sins
Jesus died for our sins once for all time
this means we won’t die for our sins

though we will die the “first death”, those who are justified are excluded from perishing, and will not die a penal death
we are excluded from being there in His death, because legal identification still means He died alone

replacement theology

“why should god forgive somebody by demanding the death of God the Son? it does not make sense to me, and i won’t worship that kind of god. That’s not even really forgiveness. It’s eye for eye. Paying off sin but letting the sinner live but then unfairly killing somebody else who is not a sinner. And don’t try to make it sound right just because Jesus wanted to do it. I don’t like it. I only like the kind of god who unilaterally forgives, without paying Himself off first to do it.

Isaiah 46: “Who will you compare Me or make Me equal to?
Who will you measure Me with,
so that we should be like each other?
6 Those who pour out their bags of gold
and weigh out silver on scales—
they hire a goldsmith and he makes it into a god.
Then they kneel and bow down to it.
7 They lift it to their shoulder and bear it along;
they set it in its place, and there it stands;
it does not budge from its place.
They cry out to it but it doesn’t answer;
it saves no one from his trouble.
8 “Remember this and be brave;
take it to heart, you transgressors!

9 Remember what happened long ago,
for I am God, and there is no other;
I am God, and no one is like Me.
10 I declare the end from the beginning,
and from long ago what is not yet done,
saying: My plan will take place,
and I will do all My will.
11 I call a bird of prey from the east,
a man for My purpose from a far country.
Yes, I have spoken; so I will also bring it about.
I have planned it; I will also do it.
…..
I will put salvation in Zion,

I Peter 3—a few—that is, eight people—were saved THROUGH water.

mark, you just want your guilt detached from you, without you yourself being changed in any way

to which i say, yes, if my hope is not only guilt and penalty avoided (because taken by Jesus) but me also changed, then I have no hope

Lord, forgive me for my sins
Lord, do not impute my sins to me
Lord, cover my sins
Lord, separate the guilt of my sin from me, separate me from the guilt of my sins
be my replacement, don’t take me through death with you

Do the Scriptures teach that Jesus goes through the judgment for us, instead of us
or do they teach that we have to also go through the judgment with Jesus?

The gospel is more than a law gospel distinction. But not less. There are many who make a distinction between law and gospel who don’t know the gospel because they deny that the gospel is Christ’s satisfaction of the law by His death

The gospel is more than the extent of the atonement. But not less. There are many who know that Christ died only for the elect but who know the gospel because they still don’t think Christ’s death is enough to keep these elect not under condemnation.

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Jesus Is Coming In The Future, but Not to Make Anymore Sacrifice for Sins

September 3, 2011

Hebrews 9: 26 now Christ has appeared one time, at the end of the ages, for the removal of sin by the sacrifice of Himself. 27 And just as it is appointed for people to die once—and after this, the judgment— 28 so also the Messiah, HAVING BEEN offered ONCE to bear the sins of many, will APPEAR A SECOND TIME, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for Him.

When Hebrews 9:28 tells us that Christ “appears a second time not to deal with sin,” this is not a denial of a future judgment after death for the non-elect. The triune God will deal with the sin of the non-elect.

The point of Hebrews 9:28 is that the sins of the elect have already been dealt with once at the cross. This was not a provisional dealing with, the efficacy of which is yet to be determined by the sinner’s attitude. Instead, the elect sinner’s attitude to the gospel is a result and not a condition of Christ’s past dealing with sin.

The elect eagerly wait for the true Christ (not for the “loves-everybody false jesus”) but it is not this discernment and eagerness which make one sinner to differ from another. God’s election in Christ made that difference.

The parallel of Hebrews 9:27-28 depends on one time dealing with sins in the past. The parallel is ignored by those who say that Christ was given for everybody and that sins now are dealt with by the application to some of what was done for all.

It is appointed for man to die once. Even though the non-elect will die the second death, even the elect die once. Even though Christ will come a second time, Christ only died once and will never die again. Romans 6:9–“We know that Christ being raised from the dead will never die again. Death no longer has dominion over Him. For the death He died to sin, once…”

Since Christ died only for the elect alone, the elect alone will only die once. After the non-elect man dies once, there is a judgment, and then the non-elect man dies twice. The non-elect man dies twice because he is a sinner. But the elect man is also a sinner, and does not die twice, and the only reason for the difference is Christ having died for that elect sinner.

I know I am repeating what is very simple. But anything more complicated tends to bring in some other factor than Christ’s death as the difference between saved and lost. Even though what I am saying is so simple, very few people are saying it. Even though they talk about election, they tend to talk about Christ’s death without talking about election.

It was Not Our Imputing that made Christ Die

February 19, 2011

Before we jump to the redemptive historical complexity of union and identification with the death (when are the elect in Christ by imputation? 2000 year ago? Before or after faith?), we need to focus on Christ’s death to sin.

Does “Christ’s death to sin” (Romans 6) mean that Christ was unregenerate and then positionally cleansed by the Holy Spirit? God forbid. Does it mean that Christ was carnal but then infused with the divine and became a partaker of the divine nature? Again, God forbid. Does it mean that Christ by being in the environment of the old covenant needed a deliverance from “the flesh” and from the physical body? Once more, God forbid.

What does it mean that Christ died to sin? It means that the law of God demanded death for the sins of the elect imputed to Christ. As long as those sins were imputed to Christ, He was under sin, he was under law, He was under death.

Now death has no more power over Him? Why? Because the sins are no longer imputed to Him, but have been paid for and satisfied. The gospel is not about just about God justifying, but also about God being just and justifier.

Liberals say that it’s not forgiveness if God had to pay for it. Arminians say it’s not justice for God to condemn a person without giving Jesus to die for that person, and that Jesus has done that, so now God can justly condemn those who won’t accept it.

A lot is written about imputation these days. A lot of it‘s Arminian or Lutheran talk of an exchange made by the sinner’s faith. Little is written about the imputation of Adam’s sin, but even less about God’s imputation of sins to Christ. I think at least part of the reason for the silence is that “ministers” don’t want to talk about whose sins are imputed or when they are imputed. (See for instance, the new book by southern baptist Vickers)

This is not the time to think through the timing. (Even when we agree with Owen’s use of impetration, where sins which have been imputed to Christ are still imputed to the elect until their justification, we still have the question if imputation logically immediately precedes or follows faith.)

But if we content ourselves with saying that the sins of “believers” are imputed to Christ, we not only avoid the good news of election but also (by lack of antithesis) contribute to the evangelical consensus that the efficacy of Christ’s death depends on believing.

The gospel tells how believing is the effect of the cross. The gospel tells us which Christ is the object of believing (the Arminian “Christ” is an idol and a lie).

Even Though the Justified will Die, Death No Longer Has Dominion Over Them

February 14, 2011

Romans 6:9-10: “We know that Christ being raised from the dead will never die again; death no longer has any dominion over him. For the death he died , he died to sin, once for all, but the life he lives he lives to God. “

These verses are crucial for understanding the meaning of both the death and the resurrection. The reason that the debt of the sins of elect cannot hold Christ is not some “greater infinite credit”. The reason is the death of Christ.

Christ died to sin. This does not mean that Christ was born again, or became secretly regenerate or had a joyful experience of the power of the Spirit.

It means rather that the Triune God caused Christ to die because God by legal imputation already did or did not lay the sins of every sinner on Christ. And this in turn means:

ONE that Christ is no longer imputed with those sins, and this because He has died once for them and will not die again.

TWO, it means that it is not sinners (nor their faith nor their apology) who give their sins to Christ. God gave the sins of the elect to Christ already, and God already did not give the sins of the non-elect to Christ.

And you may say; this is all well and good, and I don’t disagree, but we don’t need to say it. The elect just might not believe the true gospel if you tell them the details and make distinctions this way.

The Love of God in Christ Jesus Our Lord

November 12, 2010

1. Even though John chapter three is about the new birth, the death of Christ is still the main thing in 3:14-17. And this is because God’s love for the world of the elect is defined by God’s love.

I John 4:10 In this is love, not that we loved God but that He loved us and sent His son to be the propitiation for our sins.

Romans 5:8 God shows us His love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us

John 10:13-15 the hired man cares nothing for the sheep…I lay down my life for the sheep

2. The result of Christ’s death is new birth and also justification. There is no word “justification” in John chapter 3, but two words point to the idea of justification. Eternal life in v16 is about a verdict, not about an ability given to believe.

The other word pointing to justification in verse 17 is “saved”; I take this as about justification because in context of the verse it’s the opposite of “condemned”, not the opposite of “corrupt” or “unable to believe”

God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world but that the world would be saved though Him (Christ, not the Holy Spirit)

We can over-react the confusion of new birth and justification by saying that the new birth is not the gospel. I don’t want to over-react. The new birth is part of the gospel, one of the blessings promised by the Son in the gospel.

Regeneration is not only how we come to believe the gospel. It’s self-involving; how the elect come to believe the gospel is in the gospel itself. So is “Christ in you, the hope of glory”.

But the new birth by the Spirit and the indwelling of Christ is not all the gospel. The first and main thing about the gospel is Christ’s death and then justification by that.

To give one analogy. Is election part of the gospel? Some would say no, it’s only what causes you to believe the gospel. But that is wrong. Because election is not only the decree that the Son will give the Spirit to some to believe. Election is that those in Christ were not chosen apart from Christ’s death which is God’s love. Again, it’s self involving: without telling them who is elect, the gospel the elect come to hear talks about Christ’s death for the elect.

Remember the end of Romans 8?—“nothing will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.”

I’m shouting. I’m tired but happy.
Did you hear what Jesus said to me:

your sins are all taken away
all
taken away
all taken away
all my sins