Posted tagged ‘Christ’s death’

In His Flesh, Christ Died under Law (for the Elect Alone)

July 1, 2020

God’s elect were once far away, not only in our own conscience and mind, but also before God’s justice.

Romans 6: 9-10 Christ, having been raised from the dead, will not die again. Death no longer rules over Christ 10 For in light of the fact that Christ died, Christ died to sin once for all time and now Christ lives.


It is a very bad over-reaction against those who say that Christ was made corrupt to deny redemptive history and to falsely claim that Christ was never made anything.

It would be wrong to deny that God the Son BECAME incarnate, both God and Human. It would also be wrong to deny that God the Son was imputed with the guilt of the elect, and then that God the Son was raised from His death (His death because of that imputed guilt)

2 Corinthians 21 He MADE the One who did not know sin to be sin for us, in order that we BECOME the righteousness of God in Him.

I Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be MADE alive.

I Corinthians 15 is not describing all sinners. I am not denying that all humans are imputed with Adam’s guilt. But I Corinthians 15 (and Romans 5-6) are about “us all” who were elect in Christ.

in Adam all
in Christ all

I am making two points.
Point one– These texts are not describing the non-elect. The non-elect are born in Adam and they will stay in Adam. The non-elect will be condemned and perish when Christ returns to earth. (the second death)

Point two—all the elect are born guilty and condemned in Adam. All the elect need to be “legally buried with Christ” before God. Not only do all the elect NEED to become dead with Christ, but God’s plan (Ephesians 1 is that all the elect WILL BE made alive by means of Christ’s death.

Romans 6:7 is not describing a new birth but a “being justified from sins”, when each elect sinner receives by God’s imputation the legal value of Christ’s death. (They receive legally the righteousness. Romans 5:11,17) )

If you think that “time gaps” result in “fake justice”, why do you even think that you ever need Christ’s death ever imputed to you? Are you not justified as soon as your sins are imputed to Christ? Once your sins are imputed to Christ, they are His problem, whether He ever dies to pay for them or not. Why must the payment be imputed to you, as long as your sins are not imputed to you?

Is guilt imputed before corruption a “legal fiction”?

Is saying an infant is born condemned in Adam “fake news”?

Is there any “reality” to Adam being the representative even of the
elect before their justification?

It would be wrong to claim that God the Son was ALWAYS incarnate, both God and Human, because in truth God the Son BECAME incarnate. It would also be wrong to claim that God the Son was never imputed with the guilt of the elect, as it would be wrong to claim that Christ’s death really changed nothing so that Christ continues to be imputed with the guilt of the elect. God the Son was raised from His death (Christ’s death was because of that imputed guilt).

2 Corinthians 21 He MADE the One who did not know sin to be sin for us, in order that we BECOME the righteousness of God in Him.

Luke 9: 29 As Jesus was praying, the appearance of His face changed, and His clothes became dazzling white. 30 Suddenly, two men were talking with Him—Moses and Elijah. 31 They appeared in glory and were speaking of His DEATH which He was about to ACCOMPLISH in Jerusalem.—-time and place

The word “departure”, which could be translated as “exodus”, is a reference to Christ’s coming DEATH (his being “lifted up”) . NOW His then future death is FINISHED, ACCOMPLISHED

Jesus is NOW one person with two natures. Jesus is NOT two persons, and the vision of Jesus in Luke 9 is not only of “the divine person”. Nor does the gospel talk about something preachers call “infinity”.

Donald Mcleod— “Jesus was glorified NOT because Jesus was always God and NOT because Jesus was God incarnate BUT BECAUSE JESUS FINISHED THE WORK (John 17)



Ephesians 2: 10 For we are His creation, created in Christ Jesus for
good works, which God prepared ahead of time so that we should walk in them. 11 So then, remember that at one time you were Gentiles in the flesh—called “the uncircumcised” by those called “the circumcised,” which is done IN THE FLESH by human hands. 12 AT THAT TIME you were without Christ , EXCLUDED from the citizenship of Israel, and foreigners to the covenantS of the promise, without hope and without God in the world. 13 But now in Christ Jesus, you who were far away have been brought near by the blood of Christ. 14 For He is our peace, who made both groups one and tore down the dividing wall of hostility IN HIS FLESH

Ephesians 2: 15 Christ made of no effect the Abrahamic law
consisting of commands and expressed in regulations, in order to
create in Himself one new man from the two, resulting in peace. 16
Christ did this in order to reconcile both to God in one body through the cross and put the hostility to death by His flesh. 17 When Christ came, He proclaimed the good news of peace to you who were far away and peace to those who were near. 18 For through Him we both have access by one Spirit to the Father. 19 So then you are no longer foreigners and strangers, but fellow citizens with the saints, and members of God’s household, 20 built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus Himself as the cornerstone. 21 The whole building, being put together by Him, grows into a holy sanctuary in the Lord. 22 You also are being built together for God’s dwelling in the Spirit.

A W Pink–“Receiving the reconciliation is not our laying down our own rebellion against God. Rather, we receive by imputation that which Christ’s sacrificial death has procured for us. “All things are of God, who has reconciled us to Himself by Jesus Christ” (2 Corinthians 5:18). The “enmity” of Ephesians 2:16 cannot refer to that which existed between Jews and Gentiles, for that has been disposed of in verses 14, 15. “Enmity” is here personified (“slain”), as “sin” is in Romans 8:3. Thus, the verse means that all the sins of God’s elect met upon Christ, and Divine justice took satisfaction from Christ’s death.”

Redemptive history happens in Christ in history. Gnosticism and Docetism are great evils. The legal application of Christ’s redemption to the elect is by God’s imputation (and only then does the Holy Spirit give the new birth and faith in the gospel.

If you personally are elect in Christ (God’s purpose), then in time God will cause you personally to believe the gospel, and that believing will only happen after you have received by imputation the objective righteousness (something real, something that is something) of Christ’s death in his flesh by God’s imputation.

I Corinthians 15:23 But each in his own order: Christ, the first-fruits; afterward, at His coming, those who belong to Christ. 24 Then comes the end, when He hands over the kingdom to God the Father, when He abolishes all rule and all authority and power. 25 For He must reign until He puts all His enemies under His feet. 26 The last enemy to be abolished is death

I Corinthians 15: 45 Thus it is written, “The first man Adam became a living being”. The last Adam BECAME a life-giving spirit.

Romans 9: “For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the PURPOSE of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calls.”

Galatians 3:16 He does not say “and to seeds,” as though referring to many, but referring to one, and to your seed, who is Christ. …..The law was put into effect through angels by means of a mediator. 20 And a mediator is not for just one person, but God is one. 21 Is the law therefore contrary to God’s promises? Absolutely not…. The Scripture has imprisoned everything under sin’s power, in order that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ be given to those who believe.


God’s promises to Abraham are not only one promise.
God’s promise to Abraham is not only a promise to Christ.
God’s promise to Abraham is not only a promise about one person.
God’s promise to Abraham results in a promise to “all who believe”.
God’s law to Abraham also promises negative sanctions (for
intermarriage or failure to be circumcised)

Genesis 15:13 Then the Lord said to Abram, “Know this for certain:
Your seed will be foreigners in a land that does not belong to them.
Your seed will be enslaved 400 years. 14 However, I will judge the
nation they serve, and afterward your seed will go out with many possessions….16 In the fourth generation your seed will return here

Psalm 110: this is the declaration of the Lord to my Lord: “Sit at My right hand UNTIL I MAKE Your enemies Your footstool.” 2 The Lord will extend Your mighty scepter from Zion. Rule over Your enemies.
3 Your people will willing on Your day
4 The Lord has sworn an oath and will not take it back:
“Forever, You are a priest like Melchizedek.”

I Samuel 7:11 ‘The Lord declares to you: The Lord Himself will make a house for you. 12 When YOUR TIME COMES and you rest with your fathers, I will raise up after you your descendant, who will come from your body, and I will establish His kingdom.

Hebrews 7 For this Melchizedek remains a priest forever.
Abraham gave him a tenth of everything.
First, his name means king of righteousness,
Then also, king of Salem, meaning king of peace;
3 without father, mother, or genealogy,
having neither beginning of days nor end of life,
but resembling the Son of God—

Hebrews 7:26 For this is the kind of high priest we need— holy, innocent, un-defiled, separated from sinners, and exalted above the heavens. 27 Jesus does not need to offer sacrifices every day, as high priests do—first for their own sins, then for those of the people. Jesus ACTED ONCE FOR ALL TIME when He offered Himself. 28 For the law appoints as high priests men who are weak, but the promise of THE OATH THAT COMES AFTER THE LAW appoints a Son, who has been permanently perfected.

The oath to David came after God gave law to Moses. This oath from God to David was not made before creation. God’s oath was “cut into history” quite a long time after God had ‘cut into history” covenants with Noah and with Abraham and with Moses.


I Samuel 7:18 Then King David went in, sat in the Lord’s presence, and said, Who am I, Lord God, and what is my house that You have brought me this far? 19 What YOU HAVE DONE was a little thing to You, Lord God, for You have also spoken about Your servant’s house in THE DISTANT FUTURE …. 25 Now, Lord God, fulfill the promise forever that You have made to Your servant and his house. DO AS YOU HAVE PROMISED as You have promised, 26 in order that Your name will be exalted

There is no need to deny the difference between promising and doing, in order to proclaim that God will do all that God has promised.

Psalm 2: 7 I will declare the Lord’s decree:
He said to Me, “You are My Son;
today I have BECOME Your Father.
8 Ask of Me,
and I will make the nations Your inheritance
and the ends of the earth Your possession.

Worship the Son or the Son will be angry
and you will PERISH in your rebellion,
because the wrath of the Son is revealed in time
All (and only) those who take refuge in Him are blessed

Christ died alone

June 6, 2015

Hebrews 13: 12 Therefore Jesus also suffered outside the gate, in order to sanctify the people by His own blood

Galatians 1:4 Grace to you and peace from God the Father and our Lord[b] Jesus Christ, 4 who gave Himself for our sins to rescue us from this present evil age, according to the will of our God and Father

Isaiah 53 says that people put him on the cross because they thought he was cursed

they thought he was cursed because he died on a cross
they considered him punished alone for his sins alone

he was in fact punished alone, but not for sins of his own

the law says— get the right person, no substitutions
the law says—no unjust suffering of one for many
the law says—one for one, eye for eye
the law says—no death of one person for another person

Jesus died for our sins, Jesus died because of our sins

Romans 4:25 does not say simply “died for our sins”, it says “handed over for our sins”—penal death
Jesus did not die once for our sins, and then the second time we die for our sins
Jesus died for our sins once for all time
this means we won’t die for our sins

though we will die the “first death”, those who are justified are excluded from perishing, and will not die a penal death
we are excluded from being there in His death, because legal identification still means He died alone

replacement theology

“why should god forgive somebody by demanding the death of God the Son? it does not make sense to me, and i won’t worship that kind of god. That’s not even really forgiveness. It’s eye for eye. Paying off sin but letting the sinner live but then unfairly killing somebody else who is not a sinner. And don’t try to make it sound right just because Jesus wanted to do it. I don’t like it. I only like the kind of god who unilaterally forgives, without paying Himself off first to do it.

Isaiah 46: “Who will you compare Me or make Me equal to?
Who will you measure Me with,
so that we should be like each other?
6 Those who pour out their bags of gold
and weigh out silver on scales—
they hire a goldsmith and he makes it into a god.
Then they kneel and bow down to it.
7 They lift it to their shoulder and bear it along;
they set it in its place, and there it stands;
it does not budge from its place.
They cry out to it but it doesn’t answer;
it saves no one from his trouble.
8 “Remember this and be brave;
take it to heart, you transgressors!

9 Remember what happened long ago,
for I am God, and there is no other;
I am God, and no one is like Me.
10 I declare the end from the beginning,
and from long ago what is not yet done,
saying: My plan will take place,
and I will do all My will.
11 I call a bird of prey from the east,
a man for My purpose from a far country.
Yes, I have spoken; so I will also bring it about.
I have planned it; I will also do it.
…..
I will put salvation in Zion,

I Peter 3—a few—that is, eight people—were saved THROUGH water.

mark, you just want your guilt detached from you, without you yourself being changed in any way

to which i say, yes, if my hope is not only guilt and penalty avoided (because taken by Jesus) but me also changed, then I have no hope

Lord, forgive me for my sins
Lord, do not impute my sins to me
Lord, cover my sins
Lord, separate the guilt of my sin from me, separate me from the guilt of my sins
be my replacement, don’t take me through death with you

Do the Scriptures teach that Jesus goes through the judgment for us, instead of us
or do they teach that we have to also go through the judgment with Jesus?

The gospel is more than a law gospel distinction. But not less. There are many who make a distinction between law and gospel who don’t know the gospel because they deny that the gospel is Christ’s satisfaction of the law by His death

The gospel is more than the extent of the atonement. But not less. There are many who know that Christ died only for the elect but who know the gospel because they still don’t think Christ’s death is enough to keep these elect not under condemnation.

Jesus Is Coming In The Future, but Not to Make Anymore Sacrifice for Sins

September 3, 2011

Hebrews 9: 26 now Christ has appeared one time, at the end of the ages, for the removal of sin by the sacrifice of Himself. 27 And just as it is appointed for people to die once—and after this, the judgment— 28 so also the Messiah, HAVING BEEN offered ONCE to bear the sins of many, will APPEAR A SECOND TIME, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for Him.

When Hebrews 9:28 tells us that Christ “appears a second time not to deal with sin,” this is not a denial of a future judgment after death for the non-elect. The triune God will deal with the sin of the non-elect.

The point of Hebrews 9:28 is that the sins of the elect have already been dealt with once at the cross. This was not a provisional dealing with, the efficacy of which is yet to be determined by the sinner’s attitude. Instead, the elect sinner’s attitude to the gospel is a result and not a condition of Christ’s past dealing with sin.

The elect eagerly wait for the true Christ (not for the “loves-everybody false jesus”) but it is not this discernment and eagerness which make one sinner to differ from another. God’s election in Christ made that difference.

The parallel of Hebrews 9:27-28 depends on one time dealing with sins in the past. The parallel is ignored by those who say that Christ was given for everybody and that sins now are dealt with by the application to some of what was done for all.

It is appointed for man to die once. Even though the non-elect will die the second death, even the elect die once. Even though Christ will come a second time, Christ only died once and will never die again. Romans 6:9–“We know that Christ being raised from the dead will never die again. Death no longer has dominion over Him. For the death He died to sin, once…”

Since Christ died only for the elect alone, the elect alone will only die once. After the non-elect man dies once, there is a judgment, and then the non-elect man dies twice. The non-elect man dies twice because he is a sinner. But the elect man is also a sinner, and does not die twice, and the only reason for the difference is Christ having died for that elect sinner.

I know I am repeating what is very simple. But anything more complicated tends to bring in some other factor than Christ’s death as the difference between saved and lost. Even though what I am saying is so simple, very few people are saying it. Even though they talk about election, they tend to talk about Christ’s death without talking about election.

It was Not Our Imputing that made Christ Die

February 19, 2011

Before we jump to the redemptive historical complexity of union and identification with the death (when are the elect in Christ by imputation? 2000 year ago? Before or after faith?), we need to focus on Christ’s death to sin.

Does “Christ’s death to sin” (Romans 6) mean that Christ was unregenerate and then positionally cleansed by the Holy Spirit? God forbid. Does it mean that Christ was carnal but then infused with the divine and became a partaker of the divine nature? Again, God forbid. Does it mean that Christ by being in the environment of the old covenant needed a deliverance from “the flesh” and from the physical body? Once more, God forbid.

What does it mean that Christ died to sin? It means that the law of God demanded death for the sins of the elect imputed to Christ. As long as those sins were imputed to Christ, He was under sin, he was under law, He was under death.

Now death has no more power over Him? Why? Because the sins are no longer imputed to Him, but have been paid for and satisfied. The gospel is not about just about God justifying, but also about God being just and justifier.

Liberals say that it’s not forgiveness if God had to pay for it. Arminians say it’s not justice for God to condemn a person without giving Jesus to die for that person, and that Jesus has done that, so now God can justly condemn those who won’t accept it.

A lot is written about imputation these days. A lot of it‘s Arminian or Lutheran talk of an exchange made by the sinner’s faith. Little is written about the imputation of Adam’s sin, but even less about God’s imputation of sins to Christ. I think at least part of the reason for the silence is that “ministers” don’t want to talk about whose sins are imputed or when they are imputed. (See for instance, the new book by southern baptist Vickers)

This is not the time to think through the timing. (Even when we agree with Owen’s use of impetration, where sins which have been imputed to Christ are still imputed to the elect until their justification, we still have the question if imputation logically immediately precedes or follows faith.)

But if we content ourselves with saying that the sins of “believers” are imputed to Christ, we not only avoid the good news of election but also (by lack of antithesis) contribute to the evangelical consensus that the efficacy of Christ’s death depends on believing.

The gospel tells how believing is the effect of the cross. The gospel tells us which Christ is the object of believing (the Arminian “Christ” is an idol and a lie).

Even Though the Justified will Die, Death No Longer Has Dominion Over Them

February 14, 2011

Romans 6:9-10: “We know that Christ being raised from the dead will never die again; death no longer has any dominion over him. For the death he died , he died to sin, once for all, but the life he lives he lives to God. “

These verses are crucial for understanding the meaning of both the death and the resurrection. The reason that the debt of the sins of elect cannot hold Christ is not some “greater infinite credit”. The reason is the death of Christ.

Christ died to sin. This does not mean that Christ was born again, or became secretly regenerate or had a joyful experience of the power of the Spirit.

It means rather that the Triune God caused Christ to die because God by legal imputation already did or did not lay the sins of every sinner on Christ. And this in turn means:

ONE that Christ is no longer imputed with those sins, and this because He has died once for them and will not die again.

TWO, it means that it is not sinners (nor their faith nor their apology) who give their sins to Christ. God gave the sins of the elect to Christ already, and God already did not give the sins of the non-elect to Christ.

And you may say; this is all well and good, and I don’t disagree, but we don’t need to say it. The elect just might not believe the true gospel if you tell them the details and make distinctions this way.

The Love of God in Christ Jesus Our Lord

November 12, 2010

1. Even though John chapter three is about the new birth, the death of Christ is still the main thing in 3:14-17. And this is because God’s love for the world of the elect is defined by God’s love.

I John 4:10 In this is love, not that we loved God but that He loved us and sent His son to be the propitiation for our sins.

Romans 5:8 God shows us His love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us

John 10:13-15 the hired man cares nothing for the sheep…I lay down my life for the sheep

2. The result of Christ’s death is new birth and also justification. There is no word “justification” in John chapter 3, but two words point to the idea of justification. Eternal life in v16 is about a verdict, not about an ability given to believe.

The other word pointing to justification in verse 17 is “saved”; I take this as about justification because in context of the verse it’s the opposite of “condemned”, not the opposite of “corrupt” or “unable to believe”

God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world but that the world would be saved though Him (Christ, not the Holy Spirit)

We can over-react the confusion of new birth and justification by saying that the new birth is not the gospel. I don’t want to over-react. The new birth is part of the gospel, one of the blessings promised by the Son in the gospel.

Regeneration is not only how we come to believe the gospel. It’s self-involving; how the elect come to believe the gospel is in the gospel itself. So is “Christ in you, the hope of glory”.

But the new birth by the Spirit and the indwelling of Christ is not all the gospel. The first and main thing about the gospel is Christ’s death and then justification by that.

To give one analogy. Is election part of the gospel? Some would say no, it’s only what causes you to believe the gospel. But that is wrong. Because election is not only the decree that the Son will give the Spirit to some to believe. Election is that those in Christ were not chosen apart from Christ’s death which is God’s love. Again, it’s self involving: without telling them who is elect, the gospel the elect come to hear talks about Christ’s death for the elect.

Remember the end of Romans 8?—“nothing will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.”

I’m shouting. I’m tired but happy.
Did you hear what Jesus said to me:

your sins are all taken away
all
taken away
all taken away
all my sins