Let’s Not compete to be Worst Sinner—More Sin does not get us More Grace.

The attempt to bribe Ukraine was not “inappropriate”.The call was perfect. I have the absolute right and power to pardon myself, but why would I do that when I have done nothing wrong?

https://babylonbee.com/news/trump-declares-he-has-right-to-pardon-himself-on-day-of-gods-judgment/

I Timothy 1 :13 I was formerly a cruel persecutor, and an arrogant man. But I received mercy because I acted out of ignorance in unbelief. 14 And the grace of our Lord overflowed, along with the faith and love that are in Christ Jesus. 15 “Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners”—and I am the worst of them. 16 But I received mercy for this reason, so that in me, the worst of them, Christ Jesus would  demonstrate His extraordinary patience as an example to those who would BELIEVE IN HIM FOR LASTING LIFE 

I John 1:7 The blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin. 8 If we say, “We have no sin,” we are deceiving ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and RIGHTEOUS to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

We could have a contest about who’s the chief sinner, or we could be “subjective” and say “well everybody should feel like they are the chief sinner and the lowest in the dust”, but then that would turn the gospel into something about us.

It’s not a sin to confess our sins.
God does not forgive sins because we confess our sins.
It’s not a sin for us to confess the gospel.
God does not forgive sins because we confess the gospel. Doing good works is not sin.
God does not forgive sins because sinners refuse to do anything for their neighbors.

Many Republicans are telling me that we are all sinners and argue there is no need to save ourselves (or God) from Donald Trump (because Trump is only another sinner, like the rest of us). And then they explain that it’s perfectly appropriate to kill people or vote against socialism for the poor, as long as we keep that a “separate issue” from the gospel. They will not be trying to keep their country “Christian”, but they will be working to keep their country the way it used to be.

One Trump supporter deplored what he called “theological perfectionism”— “piety and pragmatism are not mutually exclusive. We are supporting Trump not because he is the best Christian, but because he is the leader best suited to defend Christians.
This Trump supporter also thinks that making a distinction between universal sufficient atonement and specific sins imputed to Christ is “theological perfectionism”

Jerry Falwell—A poor person never gave anyone a job. A poor person never gave anybody charity, not of any real volume. It’s just common sense to me. In the earthly kingdom, the responsibility is to choose leaders who will do what’s best for your country.”

“This poor widow put in more than all the other contributors to the treasury. For they have all contributed from their wealth, but she
from her poverty….” Mark 12:43-44

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2007/05/jerry-falwell-faith-based-fraud.html

Unlike that other sinner over there,
at least I know I am a sinner
Because I am a sinner in my own eyes
this proves that Jesus died for me
because at least I am sorry
even if I don’t plan to do any better
because if you agree that you are a sinner
one time for real in your heart believe you are a sinner,
then that’s enough.

My preacher says if he can find a sinner
hearing his preaching can save me.

Then these same preachers say it would be “perfectionism” to “make an issue” about if Adam’s guilt is imputed to infants or to even discuss if Christ really died under guilt for sins. (Meanwhile, either in their preaching or in their books, they deny that either Christ or the elect were really under wrath in history, but they are proclaiming not discussing or explaining.)

Though only ungodly sinners are justified
or need to be justified by God,
this does not mean that God justifies all ungodly sinners

You can know you are a sinner without being justified
God never will justify all sinners.
It makes no sense to compete with other sinners about
“but I really know I am a sinner but you don’t. ”

Christ rejects many sinners as His guilty clients, because Christ was never the mediator for many guilty sinners. God never imputed the sins of non-elect sinners to Christ. These sinners are not only condemned for their wrong gospel. They were condemned already through Adam’s guilt at their birth.

God’s election of the elect came first before Christ’s atoning death.
Atonement to satisfy justice is a result of God’s love for the elect.
God’s love for the elect is not a result of Atonement for the elect.
This means that election is not the same thing as the atonement.
This means that election is not the same thing as justification.

Antinomian clergy to would be pacifists—-“God doesn’t care what you do. God loves and comforts you no matter what you do.

Does hating law (like Trump and the antinomian preachers do) eliminate the possibility of your being a hypocrite? For many antinomians, avoiding hypocrisy is their main gospel solution for sin. “Well, I may be profane and cruel , but at least I’m honest about it.”

Antinomian preachers say that only the gospel teaches what sin is.
Antinomian preachers think self-righteousness is the only sin.

But when “we don’t preach any law” preachers say that it’s not preaching unless it’s only gospel, they are confusing law with gospel

I have had some experience with people who accuse me of being self-righteousness if I say anything about any other sin than self-righteousness. But of course they don’t think they are self-righteous when they accuse me of being self-righteous.

Self-righteousness is not our only sin. Sin against the gospel is not the only sin. Adam’s first sin was not against the gospel because (before sin) there was no gospel. Adam sinned against the law. The law is not of faith. The law is–do not sin.

Romans 4: 7 How joyful are those whose lawless acts are forgiven and whose sins are covered!
8 How joyful the sinner
the Lord will never charge with sin! (Psalm 32)

The only hope for those born under the reign of sin is the reign of grace, by means of Christ’s death for imputed sins.

Psalm 103: For as the heavens are high above the earth,
So great is His mercy toward those who fear Him;
12 As far as the east is from the west,
So far has He removed our transgressions from us.
13 As a father pities his children,
So the Lord pities those who fear Him.
14 For He knows our frame;
He remembers that we are dust.
15 our days are like grass;
As a flower of the field, gone and forgotten

Sin is a problem that God’s grace “overcomes”. In no way is our sin or honestly about sin an addition to the truth and power of grace. This is something Tullian (and Forde) never learned. Talking about your sin is not that much different from talking about yourself (or your grandfather).

Romans 3: 5 But if our unrighteousness highlights God’s righteousness, what are we to say? Is God unrighteous to inflict wrath on sinners? 6 Absolutely not!
Romans 3: 7 But if by my lie God’s truth is amplified to His glory, why am I also still judged as a sinner? 8 Some slander us and claim that we say, “Let us do what is evil so that good may come”? Their condemnation is deserved!

Romans 5: 20 where sin increased grace increased even more 21 As sin reigned in death, so also grace will reign through righteousness, resulting in lasting life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Romans 6: 7 a person who has died is justified from sin’s guilt which is the power of sin. 9 we know that Christ, HAVING BEEN raised from the dead, will not die again. Death NO LONGER rules over Him. 10 Christ died to sin once for all time.

Adam sinned as a substitute for sinners. In the reign of death, the guilt of Adam is imputed by God to all sinners. But there is a reign of righteousness, because Jesus Christ actually died INSTEAD OF elect sinners, as their substitute.

Some antinomians take the language of “we died with Christ” to mean that the elect were baptized into Christ PRIOR TO the accomplishment of Christ’s death, so that when Christ died, the elect died with Him. In this false gospel, the elect are not legally placed by God into a FINISHED death, but were already legally in Christ as He was dying on the cross.

Some antinomians take the error even further, and claim that Christ Himself never died and that Christ Himself was never under guilt and sin before God. And then they say the same about Christ’s elect.

This error changes the nature of Christ’s death on the cross from a substitutionary sacrifice, made by the holy Lamb apart from the
sinners, to a corporate non-event that includes the elect. As these false teachers deny that anybody is ever ultimately condemned for
Adam’s guilt (but only for their own unbelief) , they also deny that Christ Himself ever became condemned or ever became justified.

Romans 4:24 God raised Jesus our Lord from the dead. 25 Jesus was handed over to guilt and Jesus was raised because of justification.

Grace does not reign because of our sin. Grace does not reign because of our lack of self-righteousness. Grace does not reign because of Christ’s law keeping. Grace reigns because of Christ’s death, not because of our death.

The elect who are justified are not justified because they were always justified. Christ was justified because of Christ’s death
because of guilt imputed. The justification of the elect is not the same thing as the justification of Christ.

The elect were not always imputed righteous. Christ was not always imputed righteous. Christ’s death brought in the righteousness that justifies (even Abraham). Christ was raised from the dead because Christ was justified by death. Christ was raised from the dead because all His elect will become justified.

2 Corinthians 5:21 God made the One who did not know sin to become guilty for us, in order that we would become the righteousness of God in Him

It is a very bad over-reaction against those who say that Christ was made corrupt to deny redemptive history and to falsely claim that Christ was never MADE anything.

The second person of the Trinity is not a person in abstraction from the human nature that this person would in future take on.
The Logos is not a mediator between the two natures of Christ the person.
The lifting up of Christ the person to death is the revelation and exaltation of Christ the person.
The immutability of Christ cannot mean that Christ does not die and rise from the dead in history

I Corinthians 15:45 Thus it is written, “The first man Adam BECAME a living being”. The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.

Christ before and after incarnation is God
God the Son always has the Father
Christ’s death is not God’s apology to sinners
Christ’s death is God’s satisfaction to God for the sins of the sinners who God loves

I John 4: 10 This is love: not that we loved God, but that God loved us and sent his Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins.

God is not our love.
God is not our idea of “eternity”.
God the Father sent the Son to die for the sins of the elect.
God the Son is the man who obtained righteousness by death

Romans 5: 17 Because by the one man’s trespass, death reigned through that one man Adam, how much more will those who receive the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ

Romans 6 teaches that grace is either grace or not. There is not more or less grace, but either grace or no grace. More sin does not get the elect more grace, because all those God justifies have all the grace any other elect person has.

While unbelievers trust in God to help them to sin less, those who have been delivered to the gospel will remember even in the age to come that there are only two kind of sinners,—guilty sinners and justified sinners .

Revelation 5:9 “You are worthy to take the scroll and to open its seals, because you were slain, and with your blood you purchased for God persons from every tribe and language and people and nation. You have made them to be a kingdom and priests to serve our God, and they will reign on the earth.”

We justify God because God has revealed God. And God has revealed that God is more than sovereign. God’s words reveal God to be Righteous and Just. And God’s word is justified in history by what God did when Christ gave Himself up to death on the cross because of the imputed guilt of the elect.

We were wrong: God was right and God is still right. God prevails, but it is not only a matter of “sovereignty always wins”. One. We have no right to make a negative judgment on God. Two, it is God who will be making a negative judgment on many sinners. Let that cause us to fear God and to confess the gospel and our sins before God.

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14 Comments on “Let’s Not compete to be Worst Sinner—More Sin does not get us More Grace.”

  1. Mark Mcculley Says:

    Hauerwas: People read Romans 13 and don’t read Romans 12. Paul would have thought that the emperor should also forgive his enemies and so I think that chapter division is just a disaster. “Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesars, unto God the things that are of God.” I think it’s pretty clear that that wasn’t saying, “Oh, well Caesar gets to do what Caesar does.” I mean you know when Jesus says let me see the coin, the very fact that the people that had asked him the
    question handed him the coin already indicated that they were
    complicit with Rome in a way that was incompatible with being Jewish.
    So I think that the assumption that, oh well Caesar is Caesar and the
    church is church and we can get along, well you know Caesar wants it all and I think the idea that we got that straightened out by
    separation of church and state is just crazy.

    https://thewayofimprovement.com/2019/08/05/on-whataboutism-and-moral-equivalence-in-the-age-of-trump/

    • markmcculley Says:

      maybe the Son as Creator is our Lawgiver, but is the Son as Redeemer our lawgiver?

      Hauerwas—-“At a conference sponsored by the Church Federation Office in 1932, Bonhoeffer vigorously attacked the idea of the “orders of creation” introduced by traditional Lutherans. Creation simply cannot be self-validating because Christians have no knowledge of creation separate from redemption. “The creation is a picture of the power and faithfulness of God, demonstrated to us in God’s revelation in Jesus Christ. We worship the creator, revealed to us as redeemer.”

      “Bonhoeffer soon returned to the issue of the “orders of creation” in a
      address to the Youth Peace Conference in Czechoslovakia in July 1932. Again he attacks those who believe that we must accept certain orders as given in creation. Such a view entails the presumption that because the nations have been created differently each one is obliged to preserve and develop its own characteristics. He notes this understanding of the nation is particularly dangerous because “just about everything can be defended by it.” Not only is the fallenness of such order ignored, but those that use the orders of creation to justify their commitment to Germany fail to see that “the so-called orders of creation are not revelations of the divine commandment, they are concealed and invisible. Thus the concept of orders of creation must be rejected as a basis for the knowledge of the commandment of God.”

      Bonhoeffer is against the distinction between “person” and “office” he attributes to the Reformation. He notes this distinction is crucial for justifying the Reformation position on war and on the public use of legal means to repel evil. “But this distinction between private person and bearer of an office as normative for my behavior is foreign to Jesus,” Bonhoeffer argues. “He does not say a word about it. He addresses his disciples as people who have left everything behind to follow him. ‘Private’ and ‘official’ spheres are all completely subject to Jesus’ command. https://uwaterloo.ca/grebel/publications/conrad-grebel-review/issues/fall-2002/dietrich-bonhoeffers-political-theology

  2. Mark Mcculley Says:

    MANY use to try to gain “extra blessing” (more holiness, more warning) are using law unlawfully But others are NOT using law that way. I am using law to define sin. Christians are still sinners.

    The reaction to those who use law unlawfully is not to over-react and
    say that there is no law standard for Christians. .

    Was the death of Christ sin? Did religion and the state sinfully kill Jesus? Will we remember that sin? Will we remember that death?

    Those who teach that Christ was cursed for sinners who will in the end still be cursed have a false gospel, which denies the justice of God.

    Those who teach that all the sinners for whom Jesus was cursed were never cursed have a false gospel, which denies the justice of God by confusing justice with election

    “We are not under the law in any sense.”
    “Christ is our creator and His commands are right”.

    Those two statements contradict each other. We need to be more careful with definitions. The key is “what is THE LAW”. I think we agree often “the law” means “the Mosaic covenant, including
    the ten commandments”

    But if that’s what you mean, then you need to say “we are not under
    the Ten commandments in a sense, but the law of Christ has
    commandments (standards for us)

    Romans 7: 4 you also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ, in order to be MARRIED TO ANOTHER even to him who is raised from the dead, in order to bring forth fruit unto God.

    Matthew 11: 29 take up My yoke and LEARN from Me, because I am GENTLE and HUMBLE in heart

    I Corinthians 9: 19 Although I am a free person and not anyone’s
    slave, I have made myself a slave to everyone, in order to win more
    people. 20 To the Jews I became like a Jew, to win Jews; to those
    under the Mosaic law, like one under the Mosaic law—though I myself am not under the Mosaic law —to win those under the Mosaic law. 21 To those who are without the Mosaic law, like one without the Mosaic law—NOT BEING WITHOUT GOD’S LAW –CHRIST’S LAW….

    Galatians 6: 2 Carry one another’s burdens. In this way you will
    fulfill THE LAW OF CHRIST

    Romans 6: 18 Having been justified from sin, you became ENSLAVED TO righteousness… just as you offered the parts of yourselves as slaves to moral impurity… now offer them as slaves to righteousness, which results in sanctification

    Using law lawfully does not mean that there is no law. Christians also sin against Christ’s commands (God’s law) Using law lawfully means using the law as law, and NOT USING THE LAW AS THE GOSPEL

    Hopman, p 209, The Necessary Distinction”—“There is a history of
    speaking of union with Christ and of Christ as the actual subject who
    does the good works of the justified in such a way as to call into
    question whether the justified should be regarded as an ethical
    subject at all.”

  3. Mark Mcculley Says:

    Isaiah 43: 25 “I, even I, am the one who wipes out your transgressions for My own sake, And I will not remember your sins

    Hebrews 8: 10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My laws in their mind and write them on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. 11 None of them shall teach his neighbor, and none his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them. 12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their lawless deeds I will remember no more.”

    Hebrews 10: 14 For by one offering He has perfected forever those who are being sanctified. 15 But the Holy Spirit also witnesses to us;
    because the Spirit said before, 6 “This is the covenant that I will
    make with them after those days, says the Lord: I will put My laws
    into their hearts, and in their minds I will write them,” 17 then He
    adds,“Their sins and their lawless deeds I will remember no more.”

  4. Mark Mcculley Says:

    Does being God just and justifying the ungodly mean God not ever seeing the sins of elect? no

    Does being justified mean that sinners no longer see their sins? no

    https://salmagundi.skidmore.edu/articles/173-for-the-love-of-sin

    Isaiah 10: 5 Ah, Assyria, the rod of my anger;
    the staff in their hands is my fury!
    6 Against a godless nation I send him,
    and against the people of my wrath I command him,
    to take spoil and seize plunder,
    and to tread them down like the mire of the streets.
    7 But he does not so intend,
    and his heart does not so think;
    but it is in his heart to destroy,
    and to cut off nations not a few;

    Isaiah 10: 12 When the Lord has finished all his work on Mount Zion
    and on Jerusalem, God will punish the speech of the arrogant heart of the king of Assyria and the boastful look in his eyes

    I kings 22: 12 And all the prophets were prophesying the same: “March up to Ramoth-gilead and succeed, for the Lord will hand it over to the king.” 13 The messenger who went to call Micaiah instructed him, “Look, the words of the prophets are unanimously favorable for the king. So let your words be like theirs, and speak favorably.” 14 But Micaiah said, “As the Lord lives, I will say whatever the Lord says to me.”

    15 So he went to the king, and the king asked him, “Micaiah, should we go to Ramoth-gilead for war, or should we refrain?” Micaiah told him, “March up and succeed. Yahweh will hand it over to the king.”
    16 But the king said to him, “How many times must I make you swear not to tell me anything but the truth in the name of Yahweh?”

    17 So Micaiah said:
    I saw all Israel scattered on the hills
    like sheep without a shepherd.
    And the Lord said,
    “They have no master;
    let everyone return home in peace.”

    18 So the king of Israel said to Jehoshaphat, “Didn’t I tell you he
    never prophesies good about me, but only disaster?”
    19 Then Micaiah said, “Therefore, hear the word of the Lord: I saw the Lord sitting on His throne, and the whole heavenly host was standing by Him at His right hand and at His left hand. 20 And the Lord said, ‘Who will entice Ahab to march up and fall

    21 “Then a spirit came forward, stood before the Lord, and said, ‘I
    will entice him.’ 22 “The Lord asked him, ‘How?’ “He said, ‘I will go and become a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets.’ “Then He said, ‘You will certainly entice him and prevail. Go and do that.’ 23 “You see, the Lord has put a lying spirit into the mouth of all these prophets of yours, and the Lord has pronounced disaster against you.”

    24 Then Zedekiah came up, hit Micaiah in the face, and demanded, “Did the Spirit of the Lord leave me to speak to you?” 25 Micaiah replied, “You will soon see

    26 Then the king of Israel ordered, “ Put this guy in prison and feed
    him only bread and water until I come back safely.’”
    28 But Micaiah said, “If you ever return safely, the Lord has not
    spoken through me.” 30 So the king of Israel disguised himself and went into battle.

    31 Now the king of Aram had ordered his 32 chariot commanders, “Do not fight with anyone at all except the king of Israel.” 32 When the chariot commanders saw Jehoshaphat, they shouted, “He must be the king of Israel!” So they turned to fight against him, but Jehoshaphat cried out. 33 When the chariot commanders saw that he was not the king of Israel, they turned back from pursuing him. 34 But a man drew his bow without taking special aim and struck the king of Israel through the joints of his armor.

    37 So the king died and was brought to Samaria. They buried the king in Samaria. 38 Then someone washed the chariot at the pool of Samaria. The dogs licked up his blood, and the prostitutes bathed in it,

  5. Mark Mcculley Says:

    A gospel that says that there is no longer any law or any sin is not the gospel. Antinomians like the first part of Galatians, but think that I Corinthians has too many imperatives in it—so they defacto put it in the trash along with James and the Sermon on the Mount.

    I Cor 3: 16 Don’t you yourselves know that you are God’s sanctuary and that the Spirit of God lives in you? 17 If anyone destroys God’s
    sanctuary, God will destroy him; for God’s sanctuary is holy, and that
    is what you are.

    I Cor 6: 19 Don’t you know that your body is a sanctuary of the Holy
    Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God? You are not your own, 20 for you were bought at a price. Therefore glorify God in your body.

    Hebrews 13: 15 Through him then let us continually offer up a
    sacrifice of praise to God, that is, the fruit of lips that
    acknowledge his name. 16 Do not neglect to do good and to share what you have, for such sacrifices are pleasing to God…. 18 Pray for us, for we are sure that we have a clear conscience, desiring to act
    honorably in all things. … 20 Now may the God of peace who brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, the great shepherd of the sheep, by the blood of the lasting covenant, 21 equip you with everything good so that YOU DO HIS WILL , working in us that which is pleasing in his sight, through Jesus Christ, to whom be glory forever

    James 4:1 From where do wars and fightings among you come? Is it not from this, from your lusts warring in your members? 2 You desire and do not have. You murder, and are jealous, and are not able to obtain. You fight and you war, and you do not have, because you do not ask. 3 You ask, and do not receive, because you ask wrongly, in order that you may spend on your lusts. 4 Adulterers and adulteresses! Do you not know that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? Whoever, then, purposes to be a friend of the world is put down as hostile to God.

    James 1:19 “Human anger does not produce the righteousness that God requires.” Psalm 76: 10—“Even human wrath shall praise you, for you are to be feared. Who can stand before you when your anger is roused?”

    I Peter 2: 8 and “A stone of stumbling, and a rock of offense.”
    They stumble because they disobey the word, as they were ordained to do.

    https://www.thoughtstheological.com/does-satan-have-authority-or-only-power/

  6. Mark Mcculley Says:

    using religion as a crutch to “do things they know are wrong”

    Romans 1: 31 God-haters, arrogant, proud, boastful, inventors of
    evil,…. not thoughtful, untrustworthy, unloving, and unmerciful. 32
    Although they know full well God’s just sentence—that those who
    practice such things deserve to die—they not only do them, but even
    applaud others who practice them

    Romans 2: when you judge another, you condemn yourself, since you, the judge, do the same things. 2 We know that God’s judgment on those who do such things is based on the truth. 3 Do you really think…that you will escape God’s judgment?

    Romans 10: 3. THEY disregarded the righteousness from God and
    attempted to build their own righteousness, THEY have not submitted themselves to God’s righteousness.

    2 Timothy 3: 4 Reckless, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than
    lovers of God, 5 holding to the FORM of godliness but denying its
    power.

    Colossians 2: 15 By His grace Christ disarmed the rulers and
    authorities and disgraced them publicly
    20 If you died with Christ to the forms of the world, why do you live
    as if you still depended on the forms?

    Click to access killing-for-the-telephone-company.pdf

  7. Mark Mcculley Says:

    When Jesus said that His kingdom is from another place, this is NOT
    Jesus saying that His kingdom is not on earth. But that’s the way you
    have to keep reading John 18 if you want to say that the kingdom from heaven is in your heart (or the sky) but not yet on earth in any way which would call treason fighting for another kingdom

    By saying that one kingdom is heaven in our hearts, they are left free
    to say that they also live in a second kingdom, which is not Satan’s
    kingdom but then again not exactly Christ’s kingdom either (except in
    the sense that Christ is creator but not in the sense that Christ is
    redeemer ???)

    Since Jesus Christ is the creator of everybody, this means that Jesus
    Christ is not the Lord over those who have not yet trusted in Him for
    redemption. Sure, he is Lord over them as creator but not Lord over
    them as Redeemer, so we need to be realistic and work together with unbelievers in not looking to Christ to get order in Geneva?

    Because even for Christians, Christ is Lord over us when it comes to
    our redemption but not the other stuff, which the Bible has nothing to
    say about anyway?

    If we were to agree that Jesus Christ is Lord over Christians even as
    Creator, that would mean that we want to “immanentize the eschaton” and to allow “redemption to swallow up creation”

    “Swallow up creation”. What does that mean? Would that make us
    universalists who think that all human creatures will be redeemed?
    Would that make us worship with the charitable assumption that all who are visible are “us” redeemed? Would that make us socialistss , with wives in common?

    Or does it mean that Christ’s kingdom is only in our individual
    consciences (and our ecclesial sacramental conscience) , but not in
    our “creatures together” conscience so we don’t have to be pacifists
    but are free to kill Christians from other nation-states?

    “They have seen his favors as divinely inspired and equated him to biblical figures such as Esther”

    https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/09/ralph-reed-trump-book-040920

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ralph-reed-in-the-mariana_b_1848059

  8. Mark Mcculley Says:

    is Christ’s righteousness something God always had or is Christ’s
    righteousness WHAT CHRIST OBTAINED IN TIME BY HIS DEATH.

    Is the righteousness Christ’s birth?
    Is the righteousness Christ’s water baptism?
    Is the righteousness Christ’s law-keeping?
    is the righteousness Christ’s resurrection?
    is the righteousness Christ’s present ongoing intercession?

    some preachers teach that sinners had to be already found before God could elect them—-here’s one–“It is IMPOSSIBLE for God to have loved His people everlastingly apart from God having regarding them as everlastingly justified in His sight.”

    These preachers say righteousness but don’t tend to define it, maybe because they identify having righteousness with being elect.

  9. Mark Mcculley Says:

    There are American Christians who do not consider themselves more virtuous than unbelievers. Mencken was skeptical about the world and the people in it, but, for the most part, Mencken did not turn that skepticism inward. As Mencken once observed, cynics are “among the most comfortable and serene of mammals; perhaps only bishops, pet dogs, and actors are happier.” As for the traces of self-deprecation, they are there to charm his readers

    The self-righteousness of Bryan, Wilson, and Theodore Roosevelt certainly comes through in the entertaining Mencken rants that are included here. Mencken himself did not avoid a certain kind of self-righteousness.

    Hart winds up offering Trump as a potential antidote for what has gone wrong with Christianity in America, which comes down to its general lack of realism about this fallen world.

    https://www.nationalreview.com/magazine/2017/01/23/dg-hart-daming-words/

    https://www.ligonier.org/learn/articles/holding-line/

  10. Mark Mcculley Says:

    no Jesus in Romans 2?
    Romans 2: 16 Their competing thoughts will either accuse or excuse
    them on the day when God judges what people have kept secret,
    according to my gospel through Christ Jesus.
    Hauerwas— in 1932, Bonhoeffer vigorously attacked the idea of the “orders of creation” introduced by traditional Lutherans. Creation simply cannot be self-validating because Christians have no knowledge of creation separate from redemption. “The creation is a picture of the power and faithfulness of God, demonstrated to us in God’s revelation in Jesus Christ. We worship the creator, revealed to us as redeemer.”
    “Again he attacks those who believe that we must accept certain orders as given in creation. Such a view entails the presumption that because the nations have been created differently each one is obliged to preserve and develop its own characteristics. He notes this understanding of the nation is particularly dangerous because “just about everything can be defended by it.” Not only is the fallenness of such order ignored, but those that use the orders of creation to justify their commitment to Germany fail to see that “the so-called orders of creation are not revelations of the divine commandment, they are concealed and invisible. Thus the concept of orders of creation must be rejected as a basis for the knowledge of the commandment of God.”
    Bonhoeffer is against the distinction between “person” and “office. He notes this distinction is crucial for justifying the Reformation position on war and on the public use of legal means to repel evil. “But this distinction between private person and bearer of an office as normative for my behavior is foreign to Jesus,” Bonhoeffer argues. “He does not say a word about it. He addresses his disciples as people who have left everything behind to follow him. ‘Private’ and ‘official’ spheres are all completely
    subject to Jesus’ command.

  11. Mark Mcculley Says:

    He wants to know the names of
    All those he’s better than

    Two little Hitlers will fight it out until
    One little Hitler does the other one’s will

  12. Mark Mcculley Says:

    “Roughly put, antinomianism is the idea that justification by faith liberates you from the need to do good works…It can be seen, in some way, as the squaring of a tricky theological circle: the Calvinist idea that the Elect have been singled out for salvation as part of the divine scheme long before any of them were twinkles in the twinkles in their ancestors’ eyes. if justification by faith, rather than by works, is the high road to heaven, the logical extreme of the position is that works don’t matter at all.

    “Divine grace, over which we have no control, brings about faith. Faith brings about salvation. Ergo, if you’re not touched by grace, there’s nothing much you can do… If, on the other hand, you are one of the Elect, whoop de doo: no amount of bad behavior is going to prevent Jesus seeing you right. This is a pretty crazy view to take, most of us would agree, and historically it has tended to be discouraged by both civic and religious authorities for rather obvious reasons.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/personal-view/3623917/Commentary.htm

    Christopher Hitchens objecting to vicarious redemption: “I cannot absolve you of your responsibilities. It would be immoral of me to offer, and immoral of you to accept”

  13. Mark Mcculley Says:

    If nobody is honest enough to say anybody else is dishonest, then there is no law
    and if there is no law, then there is no gospel


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