The Non-Elect Dead Are Only Raised for Condemnation

Resurrection is for the elect alone.

When I say that only the elect alone are raised to life, I am not denying that the non-elect are raised after the first death in order to be destroyed in the second death. Since God is holy and just, that future judgment of the non-elect is necessary and important.

But the resurrection to life is only for the elect, and that is why I Corinthians 15 pays no attention to the non-elect. “And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile and you are still in your sins. Then those who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished. If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all people most to be pitied.” (v17-19)

Even though non-elect do not suffer until the second coming, Christ has never known them and they have no safety from His coming wrath.

Hebrews 9: 27-28, “And just as it is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment, so Christ, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time, not to deal with sin but to save those who are eagerly waiting for him.”

When a person dies, life has left the body; breath has left. Genesis 2:7 teaches us that dust plus breath from God is the “soul”–the living being. So death is the “separation” of life from a person. I have no problem with the word “separation” if you also continue to tell us what is being separated.

But the idea of separation surely does not prove the Roman Catholic dogma of a separate and immortal “soul”. God alone is immortal and will give immortality to His justified elect.

If the death of death is no more death, does that mean the world keeps all the death it already has? That death has won all its victories, and that they cannot be undone, but now there will be no more deaths added to the ones that already happened? One thing I know: death is not our friend but our enemy. Resurrection is our hope.

“Poured out his soul” goes to the definition of the word “soul”. The soul is the blood; the soul is that which can physically die. That is what a reading of Isaiah 53 gives unless you impose some non-biblical definition of soul onto the text.

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5 Comments on “The Non-Elect Dead Are Only Raised for Condemnation”

  1. Kenneth Hurst Says:

    Thanks, very good.

  2. markmcculley Says:

    The Elect Die Once, the Non-Elect Die Twice
    Christ died once only. Christ died one time alone. The elect in Christ will also only die once.

    Even though Christ will come a second time, Christ only died once. Since Christ died only for the elect alone, the elect alone will only die once. After the non-elect man dies once, there is a judgment, and then the non-elect man dies twice.

    The non-elect man dies twice because he is a sinner. But the elect man is also a sinner, and does not die twice, and the only reason for this is Christ having died for that elect sinner.

    I know I am saying something very simple. But anything more complicated tends to bring in some other factor than Christ’s death as the difference between saved and lost.

    Even though what I am saying is so simple, very few people are saying it. Even though they talk about

  3. markmcculley Says:

    packer: The assertion that in the age to come life is the sort of thing that goes on while punishment is the sort of thing that ends begs the question.

    mark: would it change anything if we said that life is the sort of thing that goes on living while death is the sort of thing which stays dead?

    if you stay dead, is that a “sustained event”?

    if you substitute punishment for “perish” or ‘destruction”, does that change anything?

    is ‘eternal redemption” a “sustained event’?

    if redemption is “once for all time”, does that mean that redemption is not “everlasting’?

    why does exclusion rule out destruction?

    has the thing destroyed been excluded?

    or does it have to be destroyed in such a way that it is never destroyed in order to keep on being excluded?

  4. markmcculley Says:

    Revelation 20: 13 Then the sea gave up its dead, and Death and Hades gave up their dead; all (the non-elect) were judged according to their works. 14 Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. 15 And anyone not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire. . ………….. the elect will all have been justified by then, and will not enter into the judgment, John 5:24

    Hades is thrown into the lake of fire

    The lake of fire is the second death
    The lake of fire is Gehenna

    therefore, Hades is thrown into Gehenna

    Hades and Gehenna are not the same place

    Gehenna is not a new name for Hades

  5. markmcculley Says:

    Tripp is a “Reformed psychologist” who gets featured at Reformed conferences He pushes the idea of sinners living forever in hell, but in the process of defending that notion he says time and again, it was not ever meant to be this way. So “hell” to him is plan b.

    He definitely agrees with what Satan told Adam and Eve—you will never die, you will live somewhere forever. He even endorses the dualism of Ben Franklin—here lies the body, like the cover of an old book, its contents torn out…..And he quotes C S Lewis as if it’s apostolic—we will live forever, because inside we want to live forever.

    Who the we is of course a little fuzzy. Maybe all of us are Christians, or maybe it’s only all of us who are reading his books or paying to hear him in a conference, but in any case we all need to be thankful that we won’t be tortured forever by the God who never wanted to do that. It was never God’s “intention”, the writer keeps telling us. It was not on purpose, it was plan b. And even now, God wishes that it would not happen, but since we have free will, it might…..

    I suppose this theodicy is “intended” to reassure us. God never gave the law to increase sin, but we have free will. God never ordained Adam to sin, but Adam had free will. But in any case, Satan was right–being in the image of God means that we will ‘spend eternity” somewhere, and never die. That part of the plan can’t be changed by us.

    God did not put Adam on probation as a means to giving Christ the glory for the redemption of the elect. But it did turn out that way, and Christ will get glory anyway, provided that you exercise your free will to accept the fact that he died for you. I mean he died for you even if you don’t accept that he did, but if you don’t, then you will live forever in torment.

    Those who are ‘spiritually dead” make bad choices. So that explains how Adam made a bad choice and as a result of that bad choice, Adam became ‘spiritually dead”. And so now what LOOKS LIKE us living is really us being ‘spiritually dead.”. And what LOOKS LIKE “physical death” is really about being alive either in heaven or being tortured in hell. But God never intended any of this, it’s all on us. We placed our own feet on the slippery slope.

    Because when the Bible says that the wages of sin is death or that the soul that sins shall die, that’s not “intended” to be taken literally. Death is not death but torture. Death is not death but a separation. This age will end, but the next age will never end, and in the next age God will not ever really bring anybody to an end, but those who use their free will wrong in this age will be kept existing forever in order to partially satisfy what is so infinite that it never can ever get any closer to being satisfied..

    Death is not literally death, but for some folks (not us) it will have a dark side. God never had any designs on there being vessels of destruction, but it happened anyway, because what we do matters and what we decide has consequences. The fire that tortures forever was not meant for any human but only for Satan and Satan’s angels (Matthew 25:41). But nobody ever perishes or gets destroyed in that fire, because as Satan well knows—you shall never die. The final torture will never be final.

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