Jesus Saves Those Who Never Heard What?–Or, At Least the Arminians are not Universalists

Since I was saved about ten years ago from the false good news of universalism, I can’t help notice the inherent Arminianism of the Gospel Coalition’s brand of evangelicalism.

The Gospel Coalition critiques Rob Bell: “It reminds me of the T-shirt, ‘Jesus Loves You. Then Again He Loves Everybody.’ There’s no good news in announcing that God loves everyone in the same way just because he wants to. The good news is that in love God sent his Son to live for our lives and die for our deaths”

mark: notice what gospel coalition does not say, will not say about election: that God does not love everybody, that God did not die for everybody. They will only deny that the love doesn’t need Christ’s death.

They only say that God doesn’t love everybody equally, the same way. They still retain the old formula retained by Dordt (sufficient for everybody).

What’s with the ambiguity of “just because he wants to”?
1. God loves the elect in a holy way, not just any old way, yes.

2. But does this deny that God loves “just because he wants to”? God loves because He wants to, and His nature requires justice for all those He loves. There is no love apart from Christ and His substitution for the elect. Christ has no love for the non-elect.

I take sides with John Owen against John Calvin on God’s justice, and thus the necessary nature of Christ’s death, but that does not deny the sovereignty of God’s love. God does not love the non-elect. That’s a little different from the Packer nuance, which says “God’s love is not the whole story” when it comes to the non-elect.

But this is something you can’t say, when you think there are only two sides, liberals and conservatives. When “Calvinists” take sides with the Arminians against the universalists, we must deconstruct the difference. When “historic” Calvinists take sides against the “hypers”, we must deconstruct the difference. Nobody has to take sides with Arminians to avoid the error of eternal justification. Historically, tolerance for Arminianism has resulted in a false gospel which cannot talk about the purpose, efficacy and nature of Christ’s death.

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4 Comments on “Jesus Saves Those Who Never Heard What?–Or, At Least the Arminians are not Universalists”

  1. jm Says:

    Interesting blog, good posts.

  2. markmcculley Says:

    if God is going to save everybody, what is the down-side of being an atheist?

    which is more alike? the Arminian and the atheist, or the universalist and the atheist?

    what’s the difference between being an atheist and being an Arminian?

    what’s the difference between being an atheist and being an universalist?

    are those with false gods atheists?

  3. markmcculley Says:

    no gospel but not a heretic? http://thecripplegate.com/bad-doctrine-vs-heresy-an-exercise-in-theological-triage/

    http://www.reformation21.org/blog/2015/11/error-versus-heresy.php

    II Timothy 2:23 But reject foolish and ignorant disputes, knowing that they breed quarrels. 24 The Lord’s slave must not quarrel, but must be gentle to everyone, able to teach, and patient, 25 instructing his opponents with gentleness. Perhaps God will grant them repentance leading them to the knowledge of the truth. 26 Then they may come to their senses and escape the Devil’s trap, having been captured by him to do his will.

    II Thessalonians 2: They perish because they did not accept the love of the truth in order to be saved. 11 For this reason God sends them a strong delusion so that they will believe what is false, 12 so that all will be condemned—those who did not believe the truth but enjoyed unrighteousness

  4. markmcculley Says:

    Jesus died on the cross. It’s a fact. Is that all people need to know? Fundamentalism attempts to discover the least that can be said. But even if we could discover that “least which can be said” (which Machen says we can’t), why would we then attempt to say the least?

    But the problem is not “how much” or “how little” is being taught by Arminians. The problem is that Arminians are teaching the opposite of the truth. Does the holy God of truth save sinners for His glory by using the opposite of the truth? We need antithesis. Which of the five points believed by Arminians is part of the gospel? If none of them is the gospel, why would we think that those who are teaching those five points are teaching the gospel? This leaves me to ask three more questions. 1. What is the gospel? 2. is the fact alone that Christ died the gospel? 3. Does God save some people without any gospel, even with a false gospel?

    https://markmcculley.wordpress.com/2011/04/20/so-do-you-have-to-prepare-the-lost-by-first-telling-them-about-arminians/


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